We ended up in Elmshorn, which is about 20 miles from, it's like a suburb of Hamburg. It was during the period when, that was in July '44 when the British and American air force... they were bombing main cities in Hamburg, especially because it was a port, every day, sometimes two, three times every day, so we witnessed the destruction of Hamburg.
You could, you know, practically for miles, there was nothing, it was just, because we were permitted to go to movies, from then to work, we had assigned factories in the forced labour camp where we had to go to work and we could go to movies and we could go to Hamburg, if we wanted to, but we had to be back at a certain hour at the camp. So, we sometimes, with Adolfas, went to, because there was one area in the, in Hamburg, as destroyed as it was, an area near the railroad station, an area known as Altona, where there were still some book shops left. It was an area of... obviously, it was an area like New York, 4th Avenue between 14th Street and 4th Street, was in 1960 when there were book shops on both sides from 14th Street to 4th Street. You have some memory of some of that. Okay. So that was, you know, obviously book, and there were still some left, so we used to snoop to, we had to go and snoop through those, that was, there was nothing else which, of course, later caused us a lot of trouble because we collected so many books that we could, well later we had to leave the camp and run away and everything we could not carry we had to leave them, sometimes we leave them on the roadside. Adolfas has a very funny story about the, about how he left on the roadsides because he could not carry any more, complete works of Goethe.