In the analogy between movies and... and... and say painting, operating is drawing, and lighting is painting, and there... there seems to me, in many ways, in vaguely representational painting that... that drawing can save painting, but painting can't save drawing, you have to be able to draw, there are very few exceptions, Cezanne couldn't draw for shit but... most of the great painters could draw, you know, and that drawing is the under, is... is what holds it up and keeps it there and makes it, holds it together and makes it work. And some of the drawings, with light, if there's a big slash of bright light across, that's a formal drawing too, but... but framing and... and arrangement is drawing and it is the basis of... of being able to use light as color and so, yes, my sense of composition and my sense of drawing, which I pompously think was really quite good, was an enormous help to me in... as I... well in... in Last Detail it was everything, since I barely lit it. And in... in other movies, as I got more confidence and lit more and it had to be lit, I... I always could count on my sense of composition or drawing that I had gotten from operating, to... to help me a lot and it always has, I think. I mean, for my satisfaction, anyway.