What we always said to one another was that you would get anything in "Nature" if you pinned a note to the manuscript saying, the reviewers want this manuscript published immediately. The editorial office run, I think, by Brimble at the time, was held to be- I've no idea if this is true or not - was held to be a terrible mess and Brimble would publish anything. That can't have been true, but it was much easier to publish then than it is now. Right. My goodness. Did you ever have a paper rejected in those early years in your career? I tried to think if I've really- I've had papers, or I've had one paper, rejected twice, the same paper, in the last year, and it was a bit of a shock. I don't think I'd ever had one before. Lucky you. For a long time I used to publish all my work in the "European Journal of Immunology", but since I was the Chief Editor there and then would short-circuit that was cheating wasn't it.