News is always coming in from all kinds of sources of films that I've made. And I, I've made so many films- over three dozen of them- that just last night when I was at a party of the National Arts Club I met a man by the name of Van Doren; and his father, Mark Van Doren, was a famous poet. And he and another famous poet by the name of Archibald MacLeish, in the 60s, they were subjects of a film that my brother and I made of just the two of them. But I, I had forgotten all about that until last night when I met the son- Van Doren's son- who has a copy of the film and, and so I'm going to get it from him, make a copy for myself, and make a DVD for him so that- you know, it goes on. You know ? One of the scenes that I remember was that the two of them in the country house of MacLeish outside of Boston. The two of them took a swim. And I went- it was one of those summer days that we were filming. And they swam in the nude. And as they came out I was filming and it only occurred to me just last night that it never occurred to me at the time, that- to be surprised that they didn't ask, well, how did you film me because I don't want to be- they just took it for granted that I would film them above the waist. And thinking back on it, of course, that's the way I did film it.