And with that amount of money I was able to start my lab. But I had no equipment... I had no equipment, and when I went to see the rector of the university who was a bishop, I said I needed so much money for equipment: 'I need a cold room; I need a spectrophotometer; I need a few balances; I need a good centrifuge; glass wear...' It was nothing. So he said, 'But where do you think I am going to find the money?' All right, well, I had to go back to my trip in the United States again. When I applied for the job to go to Coris' lab, I had applied for a fellowship, and this was a Belgian fellowship from some organisation called the Belgian American Educational Foundation, and they refused to give me the fellowship so, again, I was devastated. And Theorell said, 'Never mind; there's a man called Gerry Pomerat who's coming to visit me next week. He's from the Rockefeller Foundation and he supports my lab.' And so I met Gerry Pomerat, and the outcome was that I got a fellowship from the Rockefeller Foundation. And so, before leaving the United States, I went to see this man in Europe, Pomerat, and I said, 'I need money for my lab, to equip it.' And he said, 'No way, we don't equip labs; we support research – it's up to the institution to provide the support.' I said, 'Would you put that in writing?' And so, when I had my discussion with the rector of the university, I took out this letter; I said, 'Listen, I can get all that money if you give me what I want.' Result of this blackmail was I got the basic equipment I needed – the cold room, the spectrophotometer, the centrifuge, etc. And so I was able to start a small lab, and with four young people – the young man Hers, Gerry Hers, who... with whom I had done this work on the glucagon, just after the war, and had come back to work with me, and two medical students – one called Jacques Berthet, and his future wife, Lucie Dupret – and together we started on our first piece of research.