There are a few things I ought to say about the whole of this, in view of what is happening now at Jodrell Bank. The government had become deeply involved financially in the... via the... what was the DSIR... by that time we were another body, Science Research Council – I'll mention it in a moment – and deeply involved financially, and it was... and the vice chancellor pointed out to me that did I realise that if this telescope was built, then it would probably mean the end of Jodrell as it existed. And I objected and he said, 'It's no good your objection', he said, 'If you want, if you want to be certain that Jodrell will continue, you can have the telescope, but I warn you, that what you propose is a national facility and with modern techniques, such a national facility can be controlled from, not only the place where it is, or from Jodrell, but from Manchester or London, or anywhere in the country, and I'm afraid, that is the agreement'. So the young people at Jodrell who are worrying today about a move that is taking place of the academic staff to the centre of Manchester, may like to know that this nearly happened 20 years ago and was saved from happening by the abandonment of which would have been a very famous telescope.