That too was, as I remember, they were building different hospitals around the state and it was a state-financed project and which I remember going up and they said, would you be interested? And I said, yes. But actually, initially that project was designed to be twice as big, but because of budget restrictions, they cut it back, which was just as well.

[Q] It's huge already.

It's huge.

[Q] And it's interesting the way you approached from a very industrial point of view, you know, the windows...

Well, it seemed to me, you know, that was the beginning of a whole investigation into pre-fabricated parts in terms of building materials.  Because it had seemed quite natural that, I mean, we were not going to build it out of brick. We'd need a bigger brick and so the metal panels started to be sort of like a unitised way of building. And we had developed, actually for a building not built... I had it in the back for a long time... at Fredonia, a physical education facility, a five by nine metal panel and outside was painted steel and inside was natural steel. It was an insulated panel. Weighed... it weighed a lot but there it is, just put it up, boom, you got the whole cladding of the building. So you have the structure and then you have the skin.