When we had reached this position, we believed the solution, and we went... I went up to London to a meeting with, it occurred, I think it occurred on the same day as the election, because Robinson said to me just before the meeting, 'Oh, of course, you'll be needed at the election, won't you? You won't be at that meeting in London?' I said, 'Oh no, I can vote before the first train goes to London', and after that he was quite pleased and went around telling everybody that, of course, they must come to the penicillin meeting, because the first train... you could vote before the first train left Oxford.

This was because we had these organisations to correlate the work done on penicillin. As soon as the first work started in Oxford, we were organised by the Ministry of Supplies. So all the observations we made were written up briefly and circulated to each other. And when Americans came in, and wanted of course to be an important part of the work, then a wider organisation was set up, pulling in the big America pharmaceutical companies, Merck and Squibb and the rest of it, and the same circulation of information took place all the time. And those things that were written then are really what were used to write up the...

[Q] Different papers?

Different papers, yes.