[RV] We had fun in, kind of, reading when we were, kind of, learning about the project and reading the program, that we made – we very easily made an analogy that this was going to be a kind of religious building.  It was almost making these football players were the equivalent of saints.

[DSB] By the way they wrote about it.

[RV] And it was a religion. It was a, kind of, religious, holy thing beyond that and so that’s how we kind of… I think, that led us to the analogies we make of the building not as just a civic museum but as having a, kind of, qualities of a Christian church. And so these were, kind of, the equivalent of religious figures where a saint, where the… these guys were beyond just individuals, they were saints in the religion of sports.

What did they say in the program?

[RV] I don’t remember the details of the program. I’m sure we have it somewhere, but it was definitely a…

[DSB] It was about improving the moral fiber of the country through these, and things like that and it was very pretentiously written too.

[RV] But it was very much, I think, indicating the way Americans did think at the time and still do, of sports figures as being almost holy and exceedingly important figures.