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Using geometric shapes in my work
Jules Engel Film-maker
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I use it when I need it. In other words, that would be the simplest way for me to explain, I need it. If I need that particular shape, whatever I'm doing, that's it. That is it. But there's nothing mysterious or difficult or something that you can't explain or you don't need to explain. It's a shape and this is what I need at this moment, so by the time you have all the experience and you have all the exposure to the world of art and the world of theatre, the world of dance, you… you get a hold of something that is part of you and you can always reach into that bag and take something out. And also, you do have books, you know? You buy certain kind of books. And sometimes you just need to go through and just look at things, you know, when you're stuck. And when you're stuck, then stop it, don't do anything, just put the pens down, put the brush down and forget it. And give yourself a couple of weeks. You come back and all of a sudden it's there, it's there.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: animation, films, cinematography, film-maker, shapes

Duration: 1 minute, 18 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 29 September 2010