Until like '60, as far as Film-makers' Cooperative and Film Culture magazine, whenever I really could not find money anywhere else to pay the bill, then I went to Jerome Hill and Jerome always helped. Film Culture would not have continued that long without Jerome Hill. Actually Jerome Hill saved not only Film Culture, he saved Cahiers du Cinema. In around 19... maybe, I don't know, I'll have to check, '67 or somewhere there, they were about to collapse financially and he gave them money to survive and with the little condition that he will give it to them for the rights to publish English editions, so Andrew Sarris was involved in it. English for like a year or two, there was an English edition of Cahiers du Cinema, but maybe that was a by-product of his helping, giving money to Cahiers du Cinema to survive and continue.
Later, as far as, you know, Film-makers' Cooperative, I also for like a couple of years managed, he helped. But the beginning, like '64 or somewhere else, I never knew where the money will come from. I attacked different people, I went already to the people I had met, you know, at the Factory, some of the society people to, you know, to give 300, 200, 100, whatever and it was saved. Fundraising was... began there as a daily non-stop activity and still continues now at Anthology. I do... I still have to do the same. But it's getting easier since I know more people and they sort of... they know that this is what we're doing, is not just a joke but it's, you know, it's useful to the people and so it's more understanding and support. But there were some very difficult periods when I could not even help, you know. Jack sent a message from Rome that he's here, stuck in Rome and needs $300 so I remember I managed to get like $60. I don't know how he came back.