After the war, I... visited all the film producers and directors that I had met during the war who had promised me everything, and they said, 'Well, Ken, you really ought to be in a union'. I said, 'Well, I'm perfectly willing to join a union'. They said, 'But you can't join a union unless you've worked for six weeks in a film studio'. And you know, it was... I was very, very depressed because all these people who when the war was on had promised me everything, you know. And so I was fooling around a lot, you know, going to... try and amuse myself, and… until, and that was very strange, my sister at the time was working at the American embassy in the publicity department or something, and one day a little man came in. He was a buyer of a film studio, of a film, and he said to her, 'Can you' – it was an American film – 'Can you help me in getting some American weapons and props for this film?' And so she said, 'Yes, I think I can get them for you, but I have a young brother who has just come out of the air force, and he draws rather well, and do you think he... you have a way for him to get into films?' And he said, 'Yes, why doesn't he see the art director at Riverside Studios?' And I saw the art director at Riverside Studios, and that's how I got into films.