[Q] You know, something that occurs to me, telling us about this first big job doing... and telling us what you had to do... I mean, this seems to me like a huge responsibility you had.

Yes, it was a huge responsibility.

[Q] I mean, a lot of money to spend on it, obviously, and your decisions, and so on, but a huge responsibility. Can you say a bit about what it felt like to have that sort of responsibility at that early age? Weren't you scared, or what?

No, I wasn't scared, no. And remember there was one person above me who was the production designer, art director, Tom Morahan, but he didn't spend much time in Villefranche because he had to build the set at Denham, you know. But he was my biggest problem, because Tom used to drink a lot, and then became very... nasty. And I'll never forget one thing, you know. You know the masts are in three bits: you've got the mainmast, and then the topmast, and then the topgallant mast, and you have a platform where, you know, the people... go out and, you know… well, I... that didn't appeal to me because funnily enough, even though I was a pilot, I didn't like to be attached to the ground on... at any height, you know – I didn't like that.

And Tom Morahan came down, and he was a bit of a sadist, and he said, 'Have you checked the platform' – I can't remember the name, what it is now – 'of the mainmast?' I said, 'Yes'. He said, 'Well, would you mind going up and checking it for me?' I said, 'Tom, you're not going to get me to go up! I checked the thing before it was pulled up'. And so he said, 'You're afraid?' I said, 'Yes, I am afraid'. He said, 'Okay, I'll go up'. And he was drunk, you see, and... he was Irish, you know. And everybody in the shipyard hoped he would fall off, you see. But Jack Warner heard about it, and because Morahan was a fabulous designer, really, but he was, you know, drank too much, and so on. And Warner said, you know, we heard the thing happen - if it happens again, you're off the picture.

So, all that was really left to me. But also Morahan was left to me, because I used to take him to Marseilles, because we had to get material from there, and so on. And he got involved with someone – in those days there were a lot of gangsters and so on... and I always... got into fights, and I always had to get him out of it and so on, you know – unbelievable times!