And [Freeman Dyson] leads a good life. He… there's no excess in his life and he walks every day and he's got a terrific family life. He's got tons of grandchildren and this relatively young wife who came to La Hoya as an au pair and he then married her. So he's got… you know, he's got all the markers. And I… as far as I know, he's got no physical problems that I'm aware of. I mean, he's… I'm not sure of his age. He's about five or six years older than I am so he's probably 86 or 87, I would think. But he's, you know, he's much tougher than he looks. He looks very thin. Well, he used to be. But he was quite physically strong.

But yes. I remember when we were at La Hoya, we once had dinner at a Hawaiian restaurant. He hated it. Just hated everything about it. Hated it. Liked nothing about it. Didn't like the food, didn't like the atmosphere, he didn't like anything about it.