Then we went along the coast to Hiroshima with the obvious messages, what about the atom bomb, which was first dropped in Hiroshima and then the second one in Nagasaki.

The fact is that if you go to Hiroshima now, you wouldn’t know anything about atom bombs unless you went to one particular place, which was the Remembrance Church and Garden where, for very sound reasons, they have retained the shell of a building, which was destroyed by the blast.

But the thought that the whole of the centre of the town, and for kilometres around, was devastated and contaminated by radioactivity would, I think, it had prepared me for a rather desert scene, almost perhaps one might say like the Germany Darmstadt that I described a few years after the war.  The fact is that there’s virtually no indication that that’s happened at all. It’s a huge, bustling city of well over a million people and everything’s working and growing perfectly well, so people can draw conclusions from that. There’s a lot of politicisation I think around nuclear energy, for example.