And not only the origin of species, but the origin of individuals, and this is where [Gerald] Edelman came in and why I felt that meeting him and really absorbing his ideas must’ve been... was like... was as it might have been, reading The Origin and meeting Darwin in 1859. And, of course, Edelman’s book was called Neural Darwinism. And... and there’s a whole vast theory with much experimental and clinical support about how individuals are formed in a Darwinian way. Of course, there are all sorts of travesties of Darwinism, social Darwinism and so forth which Darwin was deeply embarrassed by in his lifetime. When Karl Marx wanted to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin, Darwin with great courtesy but... but extreme firmness said 'No, no thank you'. I also love to read of Darwin’s life and especially recently in 2009, there was a double anniversary, this was the bicentenary of his death and the sesquicentenary of The Origin. So there’s a lovely sentence at the end of The Origin when... The Origin itself is so tightly organised. Sometimes Darwin says it’s... it's one long argument, really an unanswerable argument, because of the implacable richness of data and evidence behind it. But it also has some very beautiful lyrical passages and at the end he... he speaks of the planets and the stars and the inorganic world in its orbits and its cycles, and of life as... as assuming ever, ever new forms and entering ever, ever new niches in the world and the grandeur of this vision, and for me a mystical, an almost mystical feeling of at-oneness in the world. Really, it takes a sort of, Darwinian rather than a supernaturalist perspective. I... I feel deeply at peace with the Darwinian notion of the world. And it’s... and if it humbles one, one should be humbled.