The death certificates are very interesting in themselves. It was... it's important to understand in this discourse that the causes of death that I mentioned are causes of death put on death certificates. That's the key phrase.

When the causes of death put on death certificates – like cancer, cardiovascular disease and stroke – are eliminated, it says nothing about the fundamental biology of aging being eliminated. In fact, the causes of death are listed in an international document called the ICD, International Causes of Death, and it's updated frequently, mostly by statisticians. I don't... I'm not aware of biologists or geriatricians or physicians being intimately involved in the updating and handling of those numbers, which is very important. If you read the list of the 131 possible causes of death – which, as I say, are internationally accepted – you will find that it is illegal to die from natural causes, it is also illegal to die of old age, and if you put that on a death certificate you could go to jail, because it's illegal. Of course, I'm being facetious, but you can't choose those two, despite the fact that you find them frequently listed as the cause of death of some celebrity in the news media.