I should say also that at that time, I was... I had been invited to present a paper at a conference on aging, an international conference on aging in Israel, when this exploded. In my absence on this trip to Israel, the NIH [National Institutes of Health] had arranged for people to come to my laboratory in my absence and remove and confiscate all of the ampules of WI-38. And they took them to the American Type Culture Collection, which is a storage facility for similar ampoules, and that was another shock, that these ampoules should be confiscated by the government.
So my trip to Israel was not as pleasant as I hoped it would be. I went with my wife and two of my children.