I left Penguin in, I think, in '97 or '98, and I really left because my dad and I had started the Overlook Press, a small company in the United States, before Penguin, and I never was very much interested in whether a company was large or small or...  Yes, I certainly liked making money, but that was never especially a goal.  One sort of has to make money in this world, but I wanted to publish books.  I still, am nearly 79 now, I still just want to publish books.  Nothing has changed, I like the activity.

So Overlook existed, it's now in its perhaps 43^rd year or 44^th year, and when I went to Penguin in '78 my father took over the running of it and kept it going until he died.  And then it occurred to me, I think when I was 58 or 59 or something like that, that 20 years in a job, much as I loved the job I had at Penguin, it was enough, and I did still want to publish books, and I was perfectly glad to run a small publishing company.  Overlook was small, it's larger today but it's still small, and will always be small compared to the titans in this agglomeration of publishing companies; in, I think, nearly every country… it's five large, five or six, sometimes four or five, large publishing companies and then 'the others'.  I'm one of 'the others', both in the US with Overlook and with Duckworth in the UK.

But I am very happy, I publish books, and I think I can do that till I drop.  I think that's what I'd like to do.  My daughter is someone who went into publishing, I think entirely on her own; I didn't care whether she went into publishing or not, I thought actually maybe it would be better if she didn't, but after her university time she chose to be in publishing. She is a wonderful editor, great girl, and she's at Scribners, which is part of Simon & Schuster.  I don't know if she will want to do either the Overlook Press or Duckworth, that's up to her, everything's up to her and always has been.  Maybe, I don't know.

I am not very dynastic orientated. You should have fun doing what you're doing, and hopefully do something good.