At this point, this is about 1965, our second child was born, Minouche. And I received an invitation to develop a group at NYU. Bill Van der Kloot was the chairman of the physiology department. He wanted me to develop a subsection in that department. This seemed very attractive to me for several reasons. One is it turned out at that time Denise's mother and my father both had medical problems, and we spent some time in New York taking care of them; we thought, you know, it'd be nicer for them and for us if we were in New York. Also would be nicer for our children to get to know their grandparents. Number one. Number two, Alden Spencer, with whom I stayed in close contact continued to be a wonderful friend with whom I shared all of my thoughts, he was doing parallel experiments on the spinal cord. He ultimately gave that up because he could not define mono-synaptic connections in the spinal cord that easily. But he did very nice work with Dick Thompson - wrote a major review on habituation, and also was interested in neural analogues. He was doing a lot of teaching at the University of Oregon, where he had come from, and where he went back to, and he wanted to have more time for research. And I tried to get him a position in the Harvard community, and I didn't succeed. NYU gave me a chance to recruit several people. So he would be able to come along. And so I thought that combination of factors, having Alden there, having our own group, being close to our parents, would be a nice thing to do. So we moved in 1965 to New York, and set up a very nice group at NYU.