All of the other departments in film work that way. When the director talks to the cinematographer, that cinematographer is responsible for the look of the film, the photographic look of the film. From the lighting of the set all the way through to the answer print. That's... he's the point man. Similarly, with the production designer, similarly with the costume designer, similarly with makeup. And that was not the case with sound. There was this... And if there was a problem, people would say, well, it's his fault or no, that's his fault and so there was this finger pointing which we just wanted to eliminate. So what now is something that we call, sound designer is the sound equivalent of production designer. That person, whoever it is, is the person that the director talks to about anything to do with the sound of the film. Just like you talk to the director of photography about anything to do with the photographic look of the film. This was revolutionary. In retrospect, it's kind of a basic... It seems logical but at the time, it kicked against all kinds of entrenched positions both artistic, technical and business, the way unions were organised and everything.
That's another reason we moved to San Francisco, was to get away from the overly compartmentalised union structure of Hollywood which, given the declining nature of Hollywood, was becoming even more entrenched. As the turf diminishes, people hold on even stronger to the turf that they have and we just wanted to get away from that.