And everything seemed okay until Willard spoke, until he said something, and when he spoke, he sounded like Mickey Mouse. His voice didn't have the deep richness of his voice. It sounded a little like that. So, immediately, my antenna went, 'Oh-oh, something... what's wrong?' I went up to the projection booth and said, 'Is everything running at the right speed?' 'Yes, yes, this is the normal speed.' Hmm. Am I too tired? Is this an illusion that's happening because I... I'm still groggy?
So I went back down, listened to it again. No, it still is wrong. And so I went back up to the booth of this famous theatre and said, 'This film is not running at 24 frames a second, is it?' And the projectionist sort of nodded their head slowly and said, 'No, it's running at 25 frames a second.' 'Why is that?' 'Well, we imported these projectors, these are European projectors that we imported through Canada and they're Zeiss projectors and they're running at 25 frames a second.' So I said, 'Change it! Turn the switch, make it 24.' 'We can't, this is fixed.' I said, 'You've got to fix it.'
So, they went through the motions of taking screwdrivers out and kind of fiddling, but nothing... It was basically hopeless. And by now the producers, Fred Roos, was knocking on the door saying, 'We have to let the people in.' And so I shamefacedly because there was no... I said, 'Okay, let them in.' And the audience came in and I sat in the theatre and the film ran at 25 frames a second, which is 4% faster than it should run. Over the course of the film that's... The film ran, I think, eight minutes shorter than it would normally have run. And Willard's voice had that quality to it. And to my mixing shame, after 30 minutes, I got used to it. I said, 'Well, what the hell.' Of course, in the other theatres in the world, where you had the correct projector, this didn't happen, but at the Ziegfeld, at its main preview, main opening of the film, it ran and continued to run at 25 frames per second. And not only that but all of the films that ran at the Ziegfeld ran at 25 frames per second until 1999 when they finally retired those projectors. So what can you say? There's an observation that, who has final cut on a film? It's the projectionist who has final cut. This is a good example of that.