When I met him, he had... just started his own business of importing children's clothes from Italy and I'm not sure where. And having them made in Portugal. And so, I travelled with him sometimes. I didn't travel to Italy with him, but he did his own business, which started as children's clothes. So, while I was with him, that is what he did.

We married in 1959 and my first child, Simon, was born in 1960. And then Nadia came soon after and then Anna. And so, I had three children. And there were happy times. And we had... we were living in a square in Hampstead Way. In a big house where I could paint upstairs in an attic.

It was corner house in the square, and the children could play outside. And they played and played outside with the other children. They never wanted to go anywhere else than the square. Because they had all their friends there. I couldn't take them swimming or dancing or anything. They just wanted to be there. And every day they would drag out tables, chairs, sheets and would build a whole city in that square, on the lawn. And then at night they'd have to bring them in again. But they were... they really enjoyed that time. That's what they remember as well with them. But for me it made it easy.