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Jules Engel Film-maker
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Course, I never get a dime for my film. They make deals with you and they buy you and they sell you and when it comes to: oh you're going to get some money out of the situation? Forget it. Because they always have two books. One for you, one for them, you know? And this has been my experience with that world. Beautiful world, beautiful world, don't misunderstand me. But when it comes to the money, it's a question of which book is yours and which is theirs. Because in yours you're always losing money on a deal, you know? That's Paris, you know?

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: Paris, France

Duration: 46 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008