Making films came much later. It came into the 70s, into '75, around there, when I first made my film. I always painted, you know? But making a film, that was something else. And I think the first film came around '75. So since then I did about 35 films, yeah. And while I was living in Paris I did live action. But here I haven't… no I haven't done anything here in the city, of live action. Everything I've done, live action, was in Europe. And there's something about the circumstances were such, that I did live action when I was over there. And they had one award, that's a very substantial award, a Jean Vigo Award, I think, that I won in Europe as a live action film. Yeah. Actually, I did it for somebody else over there. But, you see, if they knew that I was working on the film, they would be disqualified. So, although I worked with this guy - a young guy - and everything had to be on his name because that award will only be given to a French citizen - I think it's called a Jean Vigo award, you know? It's about as big as the Oscars here. Yeah. But… And also, there's something about that world. Some place will push you to certain direction. Paris was more… was into what I would call live action films. Here it's more towards animation. I don't know why but… or painting here. Over there it was more for… more for film and because the texture was more propelled that way in Europe, you know? And also, it was much easier to do a live action film in... in Paris. With talent - no problem, lab - no problem, you know. I did one - what's his name, this tall actor, that actor- that very funny man- the French actor? Tati. Yeah. He was a wonderful person. Yeah, I did one film that he bought from me because all day, you know, when they have their feature, they should have a short with the feature. So he wanted me to do a short for him or if I had anything halfway finished, he would like to take it on and run it with his feature. Which he did. Yeah.
