I profoundly believe that humans come first and animals come second and that-
Why do you believe that?
I just do. I think that's a part of being a human being.
But if you were a mouse you would think mice come first.
Well I think mice aren't clever enough to think about it in that way.
But it isn't, we have a moral-
No. Also, from what I know about mice, they aren't as nice to one another as humans are. I think altruism is relatively rare, is a less important factor in animals than it is in man, even in the higher apes I think that's true.
There are some places one has question about people being nice to other people.
Oh, God, yes, I mean that's also true that I've never heard of a mouse holocaust.