Yeah, Cambridge was very formative. It was... it was very interesting, met a lot of friends, heard a lot of music – and I'm not a performing musician – and I took what was then called a Part II Tripos, which now you can do in a vast range of topics, but I did it in Pathology, which involved a lot of microbiology as well and I got terribly interested in this. I got very... entranced particularly by how infections happen, the pathogenesis of infection and that stayed with me, but I had no idea that it would form, you know, a big part of what my life has turned out to be.

[Q] Did you go up to read Medicine?

I read up to... went up to read Medicine, took Part I, as everybody does, and then took Part II in Pathology and that really interested me and there were some very good teachers. One feature of there and at UCH, the medical school I went to in London after Cambridge, was that, because it was just after the end of the war and, and... sorry, the end of the war and after the end of the war, that, some people were 'dugouts' who were retired people and had been brought out of retirement to teach, and then at UCH, the other end, there were people who were then what we call now kind of registrars who actually had been through the war and had got a huge amount of experience. So I think actually we had a lot of privileged teaching as a matter of fact, and there was an old boy who taught us some lectures on plague. He was called Colonel Whitmore. He was very small and very incisive, and he told a lot of funny stories, but he had actually been the first man to recognise and identify the cause in Melioidosis in Rangoon in Burma in about 1912 or something.

[Q] Good heavens.

And there were other people like that who are historical figures, really. And one didn't realise it at the time, but they were.