We sort of knew... I don't know if we knew it was going to be a great movie or something, or if we knew... but we knew we were doing, we knew the self-consciousness was sort of paying off you know, and I guess it did, I guess it did. I don't know. And then I didn't win the Oscar, but in a curious way I sort of... in the... in the court of public opinion I did, because everybody assumes I won the Oscar – years later, they all... so there's some way in which I did, but in fact I didn't, and Marty [Martin Scorsese] didn't, which is really much sadder. I forget who won.

[Q] But Robert [De Niro] won the Oscar for best actor, didn't he?

Bobby won for best actor and Thelma won for best editor, but Marty didn't win, which is really ridiculous; I can't remember what... what was the movie? Oh, the movie that was best director was... Robert Redford won for Ordinary People and Marty didn't win. I mean, that's... that’s pathetic.