[Q] What was great about Orion was you did everything and learned so much. 

Well, I did bits of it, I never did everything in my life, anywhere, but I got some experience at everything, and I learned all this from my colleagues, and I was lucky to have these experiences. And this was very useful. I never imagined that I would be in charge of anything in my life, and I was in charge of three different publishing companies in the course of my life and… jobs I'd never asked for, but people offered them to me, and in three cases I accepted them.  It's a very great help to be the head of something, and know something about every department under you and every task that has to be accomplished in the making of a book.  Dealing with authors, writing contracts, dealing with agents, editing, copy-editing, proofreading, producing books, picking paper, picking prices, marketing.  If you've done all of those things, people can't bullshit you very much because you know something about it, and you can also, if you have any ideas, I sometimes did, you can also help people and suggest things that they might do, that you've had some connection with, or done yourself elsewhere.  So I think learning is all what it's about for people, especially if they're under 30. You learn things so quickly when you are under 30.