Coming to Oxford was of course a great surprise in many ways, and one had… I had an image of England which was completely distorted, and of course I… that, one realised as this... as the boat docked at Southampton, on a very cold morning and I looked out, everything was much smaller than I had imagined it to be. Of course, coming from South Africa, where distances were enormous, the whole idea that things that were far away were 30 miles apart was… was… came as a surprise and of course coming to Oxford on that day and… was again a surprise to me, and a shock in a way because I had come to learn of the death of Harold Daitz on that very day. However, I did settle down. I got myself digs as they were, with… in Herne Road. Of course, there was food rationing in England which I hadn't… couldn't understand, and so I had to give all my landlady all my points for meat so that I could have a breakfast there, and the important people that I met in Oxford... and of course Oxford was not very interested in scientists at the time; scientists were second-class citizens; and of course colonials were in the second division of the second-class. And so one's social life was quite restrained – had almost nothing to do with the university – but there had been set up in Oxford for the benefit of scientists a kind of postgraduate club called Halifax House and it is through that… it was just across the road from the physical chemistry laboratory where I worked and through that that I met Jack Dunitz.