I've actually seen Hitler, yes, once. At one point I, not knowing that he was actually our enemy, at the age of, I don't know, it must have been seven, eight, I once climbed a tree along the route where he was supposed to be passing by, you know. And then when he... and yes, and some bloke helped me to climb the tree and when the procession had passed by and they all dispersed, I couldn't get down again because the chap had disappeared. So I had a problem getting down from the tree. But that was my... it was funny, it was... my contact with that whole business was very fragmented and strange. I have strange, kind of, fragmented memories, like that episode of climbing that tree. And, another one, playing in the... there was a little park nearby in the Charlottenburg area of Berlin, and I played there. And once some children taunted me about being Jewish. Somehow they discovered all that. So I remember that. And, towards the end of, or the middle of '38, I had to be taken out of school. I wasn't allowed to attend a normal school anymore, and they had to, they found a private tutor for me, and for the last 10 months or so before we left, I had this private tutor. But as you can imagine, it all got more and more and more urgent that you should leave. Well once my father was in the camp, of course, it was very urgent. So eventually my mother was able to provide the necessary proof that we would leave, and he was released and we left.