Parenthetically, I read that there's a biologist, I think his name is Cairns-Smith, up in Edinburgh, who believes that life originated along this same principle. That using the superstructure of certain primordial clay, interesting biblical term, but certain very fine grained clays of which there is an abundance in the early earth as there is today, that certain organic molecules could use this clay structure as a way to, sort of, form themselves into a sphere, that then the clay washes out, and you're left with something that is the primitive beginnings of a cell. And I'm sure I'm getting elements of this wrong, but it's... the basic principle is the... what he talks about is the principle of the arch. And he made this analogy that the biologist directly in terms of life, that... what he was talking about was not cathedrals, but these arches in the desert, these miraculous rock arches that you see. How did they get there? Well, they got there by the middle of the arch being a softer rock, that eventually washed out leaving the harder rock as an arch. But that it never could have gotten there without the presence of this other clay like substance.

So, it's a very useful way of thinking of creativity, both, maybe in terms of the origin of life itself, but certainly in the process of making what we're making. Where we want to aspire to these things that somehow seem to miraculously support themselves in thin air, rather than, I think it's more helpful if you think of the opposite, which is a film that is so clearly self-supporting with posts and beams, it's just it's obvious what it's doing and why it's doing it, it's like looking at a frame structure, and it's clear why it is there. We understand structurally what's going on, even if we don't know consciously that. But subconsciously, we realise, 'Oh, well that's obvious.' Yet, that doesn't make the heart leap when you see it. I think that's one of those meta-goals that we all try to achieve, which is some kind of miraculous something that seems to be self-supporting in a way that is not easily understandable at first glance.