Well, it was while working on Breguet that I got more and more intrigued with the thought of... wondering if it would be possible to emulate some of his activities in a small way, and my father-in-law had a collection of Breguets and he asked me one day how much would it cost to make a watch like that and I, without thinking, said well I don't know because he couldn't get it made anyway, today. So I went home and I wondered why not, so I decided I'd do it myself, and started to design and make my own watches. I'm bound to say my interest in antique watches declined from that moment because I had had this huge apprenticeship with the antique watches, and I had learnt from them how thick was a wheel and what force was a mainspring and all the various details, what size screws, all this one learnt from other people's watches. So I reckoned I knew enough about it and I set to make my first watch.