In 1964, after the... my arrest and jail, for screening Flaming Creatures and Genet's Un Chant d'Amour, and we had some publicity about it, Mike Wallace's secretary calls me she said Mike Wallace would like you to come to his studio and also, bring Jack Smith, he would like to have a, you know, a program with you. So, we come, and it's all set, and we... it's a live show. So... it's like Letterman today or something like that. So first he asks me some questions about what is underground film, there sort of, put it into context. So I take one minute and I tell him. Then he turns to Jack and would pay a lot of money if I could remember exactly what Mike Wallace said to, what the question was. But it was something to the fact... OK, Jack Smith, Mr Jack Smith, you made this obscene, film, you know film, this obscene film and Jack jumped on him, stood up and, and said, 'You stupid! You mongoloid! You mongoloid!' and he turns around and walks out. And I said to Mike Wallace and said, 'You know, my friend, I have to go with him'. So we both walk out, we walk out, on Mike Wallace who was, you know, the biggest, the biggest there was nobody bigger than Mike Wallace in '64, so, and that was it.
Then time passes, in 1991 it was, we had a big party at Anthology, organized with some of our friends. And there is, one of the table as I walk through it, I see it's Cronkite, Mike Wallace, all the big television people sitting there. So I come to Mike Wallace and I say, 'Mike Wallace, do you remember me?' He said, he... now he stands up, he said, 'How could I ever forget you! How could I ever forget you! Nobody ever walked out on my show, you were the only ones who ever walked out on my shows'. That was 30 years later, he still could not forget it.