When I was a few months old, just... it'd be just after my father came back from this Chevrolet expedition, I think he must have had a bit of money because they moved and we went to live in Morden in Surrey, about a mile from the tube station at the end of the Northern line, and we lived in a... in a semi-detached, a small semi-detached house; two down and three bedrooms upstairs and a small garden, and there were a number of houses in the road but just after we moved there, about four or five years afterwards, they started to build the St Helier Estate, a council estate, and they brought a lot of people from east London I think to relieve the housing problem there. So they built this huge estate and I think three schools, and they all had different numbers; number one, number two and number three school, and I went to number three school, which was, oh, less than half a mile up the road, so I could walk to school and back and we used to come home for lunch and walk back again. It was just up the road and I started off in... in the junior school there when I was about five I think, until I was, I think, 10 or 11 when I moved to the senior school, and in those days we had an examination at 11 called the 11-plus. So we all... everyone took the 11-plus and I, unfortunately, didn't pass the 11-plus. So that meant that when I was 14 I'd reached the school-leaving age.