I doubt if I would have got away with, what would it have been, 38 years of medicine or something without being sued nowadays and it is more the culture, that's quite true and some of them are unforgivable things, in any culture. Somebody's been terribly, terribly careless or done an overtly wrong thing. I don't think doctors should be exempt from that, but, as people have said repeatedly, both writing and saying: a lot of it comes back to that misunderstanding business. Has anybody talked through the problem enough? Now, I know that certain patients or patients' relatives, however much it's discussed with them, will still go out, go out saying: I'm going to sue this chap, but many cases you see there's been a chain of lack of contact, which has gradually accumulated into something which gets to the law. I'm not very keen on it, both because I'm on the doctors' side, basically being a doctor, and also because it costs a lot of money to the health service. And some are overtly money-making things, but you have to say a lot of them are. There are some I, I mean, particularly about brain damage following encephalitis or meningitis when I do really wonder where the truth lies and where... well, I don't know if you feel this, but sometimes you read and you think there but for the grace of God go I.

[Q] Yes. Yes.

You think that's a series of mistakes, which without being particularly careless or particularly stupid, you could perfectly well have made yourself.

[Q] Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

So, but there is more of it. I, I don't actually know how a, say, an obstetrician could get away without being sued these days, there's so much of it going around.