I spoke earlier about the caring of the medical staff, the model that Hermann Blumgart established, and I went on to the floor - I had already left the hospital - came back one day to visit a patient and was... and met one of the oncologists at the hospital who had been a student at the hospital when I was chairman of the department. He invited me to make rounds with him and his students, and I went into a room where there was a young woman in bed. Steve Colm, the person I speak of, now an oncologist, sat on the edge of her bed, took her hand and said, 'You know, it's now been several hours since you and I talked earlier, and what questions have come up?' He had earlier told this woman that she had Hodgkin's disease. She expressed some concerns. He addressed them holding her hand, sitting on the edge of her bed, and then said to her, 'I'll be back this evening and we'll talk further'. We went out into the hall, into the corridor and the... and Steve Colm turned to one of the students and said, 'What did you think about that encounter?' And the student said, 'I was very impressed by your having sat on the edge of the bed and taken that woman's hand'. And he said, 'I learned that from Dr Hiatt, he did that one day when I made rounds here'. And I said to him and to the students, 'I learned that from Dr Blumgart, he then... he did that one day when I made rounds here as a student'.