I had already mentioned that in... 1957, 1958 the enormous debt that we were faced with and the troubles with the public accounts committee, and the abrupt change of deep friendship for the deep, deep enmity between Husband and myself. I... I am delighted to say that that turned out to be entirely superficial because as soon as the... the White Paper was published, in which Melville had apologised for giving false information, the... the difficulties between Husband and myself immediately disappeared, and our... our collaboration continued in the design and use of... of other telescopes, which I've talked about. In fact, he... he was quite an ambitious sailor, and he had converted a fishing trawler to about a 40 foot yacht and he once had an island off the south west coast of Ireland and he said, 'Well', I said, 'I'm just going to... to the island for a holiday', so he said, 'Well, why don't I take you in my yacht?'

So we set off from Cornwall on a Sunday evening, and it happened to be the time of the rather great Fastnet races, and the... the forecast was not good, and... and before we were halfway, we were just past the Scilly Isles, the... the seas became horrendous, and Husband, who was quite an experienced sailor, estimated them to 24ft waves, and we eventually survived. He... he was a good navigator, but we had intended to... to go round the Fastnet Rock on to the... the bay in which my island was, Bantry Bay, but... but two hours after we should have reached the Fastnet Rock, Husband said, 'Ah, yes, there it is at last', and I said, 'No, Husband, that is not the Fastnet, that is the bay and unless we turn east, we shall soon be in mid-Atlantic'. The navigation was so poor in those days. The GPS did not exist and not been thought of. Anyhow, so our relations were restored immediately. Unfortunately, he is no longer living. He... he died and his firm, in fact, has... has disintegrated. It was bought over. It was for a time carried on by one of his sons, but it was then assimilated into another organisation.