[DSB] It became an icon almost immediately. You see there was something happening in Philadelphia and journalists called it The Philadelphia School. And they ballyhooed it and everyone denied belonging to it but there it was. And it was in Progressive Architecture and they shared…

You mean the house?

[DSB] Not the house. The Philadelphia School. And they had pictures of Bob and Tim Vreeland and Lou Kahn and, etc., etc. So he was looked upon as a comer already just like that, because of those articles.

This is in the ‘60s?

[DSB] ‘60s, yes. And then, I remember when I was at UCLA and I met an architect there and he was showing me some buildings. He didn’t know I knew Bob and this was 1965. And he said, ‘I’m just sick of seeing that house in print everywhere’.

Yes. That early? In ‘65?

[DSB] Yes, yes. I was probably even before that.

I believe that there was a two-page spread in the New York Times of the house at one point, on one occasion.

[DSB] Yes.

[RV] I’ve carefully kept a… a track of… what’s the word? A…

[DSB] Publicity?

[RV] Well a track of all the articles. Bill Whitaker is dealing with that. And so, it’s a huge list of all the publications.  

In the ‘60s?

[RV] All over. It’s still… but mostly then, I guess. But, but at the same time, Philadelphia didn’t have money. I didn’t get any work in Philadelphia as a result of becoming a famous architect of a famous building in Philadelphia.