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Jules Engel Film-maker
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Eventually it turns out to be something very special because it's not overwhelmed with the numbers, you know, you know? And you really get to know each other better. And the most important thing, that they trust you, you know? And that's why you don't have to have any scare techniques or stuff like that, you know? Just be comfortable. If you don't find it working for you, maybe this other person can help, you know? Which happens, you know? I had a girl from Yugoslavia two years ago. I have no idea what the hell was all about. I have absolutely no idea what she's doing. I think she knew what she was doing. I couldn't, I just couldn't. So I finally said, 'Why don't you go and see so-and-so'. So, so-and-so took her around and the relationship was better, it was good, you know? And she not only, she actually wins first prize in New York. They give an award every year. Then she goes out there and she wins first prize, you know? And at the same time, I did well for her by not forcing or telling her, 'You're stupid', you know? No, go to Bob, I think that he can help you. And as long as you have this relationship, it's healthy. That's healthy. But don't try to be a giant, you know? No, you're not a giant.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: Cal Arts, California Institute of the Arts, New York

Duration: 1 minute, 36 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 29 September 2010