After we held the founding workshops in the fall if '84, we incorporated. I was the first chairman of the board, I believe and we selected George Cowan to be the President and pretty soon we had rented a convent from the Catholic Church and we began to have some wonderful visitors and everything was off to a very good start. I recruited a number of the people, especially in the early days, for workshops, visits, membership on our various boards and so on, and I was very apprehensive - at first especially - because many of the people I was calling were people who were in very different fields, had never heard of me or had barely heard of me, and I was fairly sure what their response would be in most cases; if they were busy, famous people they would say,’ I'm really... what you propose is very interesting, your institute sounds very nice, but you know I'm awfully busy. I have my research and my students and my consulting and my lecturing and I'm writing a book and I really don't have any time. Please don't call me, I'll call you’. Instead the people whose names we selected, people we had heard were interested in interdisciplinary co-operation, almost always said the opposite, something like, ‘Can't I come sooner? I've been waiting for this all my life’. Something of that kind, it was very heartening.