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Not everyone gave up the fight
Jan Józef Lipski Social activist
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And so, if we're at the point where we find ourselves now, it's only thanks to the fact that after martial law, people didn't give up the fight. Most did but there were those who believed right from the start that they had to resist even if it was only on a modest scale. And this resistance took off while at the same time you could see that these authorities would never be able to climb out of the economic doldrums, and that they would turn to the West for loans. Meanwhile, we could see that something was changing in Moscow and that it was no longer as dangerous as it had been under Gorbachev [sic] when the tanks were 10 minutes away from invading us. Under Brezhnev! Yes! Oh, I'm sorry.

Jeżeli jesteśmy w tym miejscu w którym jesteśmy, to tylko dzięki temu, że po stanie wojennym ludzie nigdy nie zrezygnowali z walki. Większość zrezygnowała, ale byli tacy, którzy od samego początku uważali, że chociaż na skromną miarę, ale trzeba się przeciwstawić. I ten opór rósł, a jednocześnie było widać, że ta władza nie potrafi wyjść z tego dołka... ekonomicznego nigdy, że będzie szukała kredytów na Zachodzie. A jednocześnie było widać, że w Moskwie coś się zmienia i nie jest już tak niebezpiecznie jak za Gorbaczowa, że za dziesięć minut wjadą nam czołgi. Jak za Breżniewa chyba! Tak! O, przepraszam.

Jan Józef Lipski (1926-1991) was one of Poland's best known political activists. He was also a writer and a literary critic. As a soldier in the Home Army (Armia Krajowa), he fought in the Warsaw Uprising. In 1976, following worker protests, he co-founded the Workers' Defence Committee (KOR). His active opposition to Poland's communist authorities led to his arrest and imprisonment on several occasions. In 1987, he re-established and headed the Polish Socialist Party. Two years later, he was elected to the Polish Senate. He died in 1991 while still in office. For his significant work, Lipski was honoured with the Cross of the Valorous (Krzyż Walecznych), posthumously with the Grand Cross of the Order of Polonia Restituta (1991) and with the highest Polish decoration, the Order of the White Eagle (2006).

Listeners: Jacek Petrycki Marcel Łoziński

Cinematographer Jacek Petrycki was born in Poznań, Poland in 1948. He has worked extensively in Poland and throughout the world. His credits include, for Agniezka Holland, Provincial Actors (1979), Europe, Europe (1990), Shot in the Heart (2001) and Julie Walking Home (2002), for Krysztof Kieslowski numerous short films including Camera Buff (1980) and No End (1985). Other credits include Journey to the Sun (1998), directed by Jesim Ustaoglu, which won the Golden Camera 300 award at the International Film Camera Festival, Shooters (2000) and The Valley (1999), both directed by Dan Reed, Unforgiving (1993) and Betrayed (1995) by Clive Gordon both of which won the BAFTA for best factual photography. Jacek Petrycki is also a teacher and a filmmaker.

Film director Marcel Łoziński was born in Paris in 1940. He graduated from the Film Directing Department of the National School of Film, Television and Theatre in Łódź in 1971. In 1994, he was nominated for an American Academy Award and a European Film Academy Award for the documentary, 89 mm from Europe. Since 1995, he has been a member of the American Academy of Motion Picture Art and Science awarding Oscars. He lectured at the FEMIS film school and the School of Polish Culture of Warsaw University. He ran documentary film workshops in Marseilles. Marcel Łoziński currently lectures at Andrzej Wajda’s Master School for Film Directors. He also runs the Dragon Forum, a European documentary film workshop.

Tags: Mikhail Gorbachev

Duration: 56 seconds

Date story recorded: October 1989

Date story went live: 15 March 2011