Then in high school I read what we had to read for school, and I think it was in my second year of high school that my brother came home from the Navy. He'd been two years in the Navy after the War, and he enrolled at Pratt Institute, which is in Brooklyn. He was an art student; he was studying commercial art, and one... probably in summer, I was probably 13 or 14, one summer he brought home a newspaper, the college newspaper, and there was a list of books recommended for summer reading for the students. And I... I took that, and I went to the library, and I found all these books: Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, Ulysses, Sinclair Lewis - Babbitt… Let's see, what else was on there? And, Look Homeward, Angel, by Thomas Wolfe... and Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio. 

And when I began to read Look Homeward, Angel I was transported; Wolfe... Wolfe transported adolescent boys in the 1930s and '40s. He lived only to be 38, he died in 1938, and he was... half a genius, not a whole genius. But what his hero was living was an epical existence: his hero was all appetite — sensual appetite, intellectual appetite, geographic appetite — he'd go wandering through cities, walking the streets, and so on. And he was a kind of colossus. And the, he… and the prose was highly lyrical and very propulsive, and I just swooned. There were... there were four big novels that Wolfe had written: Look Homeward, Angel and Of Time and The River are about a hero named Eugene Gant, who grows up in the south, as Wolfe did. And his second two books have a hero named George Webber, and they're called The Web and The Rock, and a very famous one called You Can't Go Home Again.

And I read them, and they're about 800 pages apiece, and I got my friends to read them. And I was... I was excited; I had no idea of being a writer myself, of course, but that list that my brother brought home was... was tremendously helpful to me. I had no guidance otherwise, and this was guidance, you know?