As I remember, we had one radio in the living room – a kind of a console radio – and then we had a little one in the kitchen that my mother listened to during the day when she was doing whatever she did in the kitchen. And then we ate… we ate in the kitchen, so the radio was on while we were eating; there would be the news and then the music, you know. Eventually, my brother and I had a radio in our room and… that was great fun, because after we were supposed to be tucked in bed, lights out, we could turn the radio on and hear stuff. It seemed very… that was the height of my childhood transgression – was listening to the radio after 10 o'clock. We… we didn't have… we had some... as I said, we didn't have a phonograph; it was… it was a luxury. We weren't destitute, don't get me wrong, but it was… it was a luxury, and neither of my parents had any interest in classical music so it would have been pop music, and pop music we could get on the radio. I… I only know of one of my friends whose family – my four or five close friends – whose family had a phonograph.