This was when he was in hospital. He came... It was after he'd gone to India but he'd come back to visit the West, and he'd been having bleeding from the bowel and he was due to have a major operation, a colostomy. And to understand the story you have to realise that a colostomy is an operation in which they give a new opening to your bowels, in the lower stomach. And I went to spend the last half hour with him before he was wheeled off. His wife was in India still, and I felt that he'd like to have a friend with him before he was taken away. And they take you away and they shave you around the private parts, and they wash you and so on. So he was taken away by this nice nurse and brought back in again. And there was a sort of slightly odd expression on his face, and I didn't what was on, but what had obviously happened, he'd decided that possibly, you know, he was an old man, he might die on the operating table. He was very vain, you must understand. It was quite important that he have some good last words, and who better to say them to than Smith, who'd remember them and repeat them. So, he looked me straight in the eye and he said, 'Well, Smith, just had me last shit.' And he wouldn't say another word. Unfortunately, in a sense, for him, they weren't his last words and I don't actually know what his last words were - though I have heard from Helen, that as he lay dying, in India, he had in his hand a stone which he had picked up in Israel, in the stream where David is said to have picked up his stone that he used to kill Goliath. And apparently he was holding this stone... I'm so sorry, I'm going to cry.

[Q] Take your time.

He was holding this stone as he lay dying, and Helen said, 'When he dropped it, I knew he'd died.' But I don't know what he last said. The world won't be the same without him, but we all have teachers.