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Jules Engel Film-maker
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I never have that difference because I'm painting or because I… it's going to be animation. I don't have…  I don't work it like that. For me, I just do it like I did whatever I was doing yesterday and I'm doing something today. But the color is going to come and move out and function as I think it will function because I want it to go that way, you know? But no rules. And no such a thing as this is the only way, you know? No, no way. No thank you.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: art, abstract, painting, film, animation, cinematography

Duration: 37 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008