[Q] The something extra, this is… I mean, this is…

Well, that’s what the ordinary person believes.

[Q] What?

Well, he believes that there’s some soul or other which, when he dies, as it were, goes off somewhere else, and while he’s alive does the actual seeing and feeling and all the rest of it. That’s the common view of mankind, in one sort or another, and… and there are many people who think that science will never be able to explain that. Now there may be aspects of it which science can’t be… explain because it’s a very private thing. But that doesn’t mean to say that you couldn’t… explain the principles on which it’s happening and explain why it’s private, for example. But… but that we can’t do as yet. A lot… most people working on the brain believe, indeed, in what I’ve been saying, that there is probably no necessity. Not everybody. Sir John Eccles is an exception; he’s what is called a dualist. He believes that the soul interacts with the brain in some way, and without that you couldn’t see or feel or do anything else. Or move, for that matter. You wouldn’t have free will, for example, whatever that means.