The next movie I shot on the Continent was called Gun Before Butter, which is based on a thriller by Nicholas Freeling featuring the detective, Van der Valk, a Dutch detective. This film was directed by an old friend of mine called Peter Zadek, Peter Zadek, Peter Zadek, who shares a similar history to my own. He's also of German origin and was a refugee. He came to England roughly about the same time as I did. And at that time... and started as a theatre director. I would say he is actually principally a theatre director. A bit like Peter Hall. He's made one or two movies but he's principally a theatre director. In fact, there was a period in London when all the theatre directors were called Peter. There was Peter Zadek, Peter Brook, Peter Hall. They were all called Peter.

And... first time I worked with Peter Zadek was on a small documentary that he made called, Simon, which was about a handicapped boy in London, and his various adventures. And I can't remember under what auspices this was made, but it was a little... a nice little film that was quickly shot and it had a certain amount of success. But that was several years before. During the making of that film, or during the making of another film that he made shortly after Simon... this is going to get very complicated. Anyway, there was an incident when Peter Zadek, who at that time was fairly poor, he hadn't got much money, was making this other film which features another little boy and a goat. And my friend, John Fletcher, actually photographed that for him, and I helped out once or twice. There was a particular occasion when they were filming in a pub in East London somewhere in the winter, in the depth of winter. And while they were shooting certain things that didn't need the goat... didn't feature the goat, they locked the goat in John's little van. John had a little van which they used for the shooting. When they finally came to get the goat for the next shot, they discovered that the goat had eaten Peter's only winter coat. It was very, very sad. I can picture his face. He's another one of those people who's got a slightly hangdog face anyway. I can imagine his face, having seen that the goat's eaten his only coat.