In '52, '53, and to '53, I was running Filmmakers' Showcase which was a showcase of Filmmakers' Cooperative, where, I think, I met you and Richard for the first time.
[Q] That was in '62. Yeah.
Yeah. And I wanted to have a... I had heard about Cornell films, to have to see them all, to have a full program of his films so to have some idea what he's all about. So, I called him and he said, with some hesitation, he said, yes. So, it was arranged and I, the screening was supposed to be like tomorrow and today is today, and I decided, for the first time in my life to buy a portable radio. So, I buy a portable, go and buy a portable radio, and come back to the cooperative and turn on, and this is going back to my extra-sensory activities, I turned on - the first thing I hear that JFK was shot! It comes. So that's what I bought for the first time in my life, I wish... I had decided to buy a radio and turn it on and there, the announcement comes that President Kennedy was shot. So, and the screening of Cornell is the next day. So, I knew immediately that there will be a call from Cornell. So I sit down, I practically, I wait for that call. And a call comes in, and the call... Cornell said, 'So, should we still have this screening? What do you think?' So, there was a long pause and I had to think fast, but I cannot think fast because I had already a feeling that he thinks now it shouldn't take place, this is now not proper. So I said, 'Yes, Joseph, you know, when the world is so bad, things like this are done... happen, I think we should take a stand, we should show, we should show and look at something beautiful like certain movies'. And so, again, a long silence, long silence. 'Maybe you are right'. So... and that's how the first show of Cornell took place.