I was excited about the new, most contemporary sort of, most up-to-date developments in acting and in poetry, literature, painting, I mean the same in painting, already in dance was happening also, and but that was not yet reflected in... in cinema. Though there are, if you go to, to, I mean beginning with, Helen Levitt, In The Street, and some of the work of Sydney Myers of Morris Engel and then the Cinema Verite was coming in, they also you see then, then you a sound and image, technology, Ricky Leacock, there were things happening and it was not yet fully, it was changing, but it was not being applied or used or reflected in all of the area that I was interested in. Or wherever it appeared and there was always critics, you know, there were always called 'amateurs' or something.
[Q] And so when in relation...
OK, poets, the beat generation, even, I mean then there, there in American literature in poetry there were to the very end till now there are two, two streams going, those who were practically three, those who are really classics or and then the modern poetry that had this sort of very intellectual Duncan and Allson and that stream and then there is the Beat Generation poetry which was never seriously accepted by, in the... in the Academia, they were always like, even today the Allen Ginsberg, Allen Ginsberg, Allen is, is, was taken, received more respect and publicity and only because he was so active and so verbal but was not taken and he's still not taken as part of the really, the... the poetry of the period. Academia rules, even today.